@Stumpy,
Especially this last update of yours is a great read. Thanks.
I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm much happier for what you gained!
Cheers mate! ;-)
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
@Stumpy,
Especially this last update of yours is a great read. Thanks.
I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm much happier for what you gained!
Cheers mate! ;-)
as a born-in jw, i never considered myself to be a fundamentalist.
i always thought we were enlightened, progressive and not 'stuck in darkness' like all the other religions.. i was totally wrong.. as far as fundamentalists go, jw's are probably right up there amongst the front-runners.
no, they do not stone people to death or go on religion-fuelled violent rampages but that's not what i'm talking about.
Amen!
And there he was this Joey, a stranger to my eyes,
Strumming my pain with his fingers (one time),
Singing my life with his words (two times),
Killing me softly with his song,
Killing me softly with his song,
Telling my whole life with his words,
Killing me softly with his song
how far do you think the corporation will take this?.
will it totally replace speakers at the meetings?.
y'know, that kind of thing..... .
Well for small foreign language groups/Congo's they already stream public talks from the stream.JW.org (where also special events are streamed) recorded in a country where the native speakers are.
It's not a big leap from there to having public talks in smaller/remote Congo's streamed. Using DC speakers to improve brainwas....eh.... quality.
And then do that for all Congo's.
And then just translated HQ recorded stuff.
All relatively small steps. Could be done.
Saw it yesterday and puked a bit.
Dumb leeches is what they are.
but i have been undercover for about 3 years.
recently i stopped going and faded(close to a year without stepping into the hall) .
an old flame of mine (who is active witness) came back into the picture.
I'm with stuckinarut:
If some random stranger called you asking questions about whatever private and personal stuff they think of, you would firmly tell them to mind their own business.
Apply the same to nosy elders. They have ZERO authority, and have no justification to start asking questions about your personal relationships.
No need to lie, deny, or imply the other party is lying.
"None of your business what I do or do not do, so please be gone."
If they insist, you could return the favor by inquiring into their personal stuff....like "Have you ever engaged in oral sex? Anal sex? When was the last time you watched pornography?"
and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?
!
It really doesn't matter whether these are real or a scam, properly judged or not.
It's pay to play. Watchtower was not invited into this award show/scam.
They signed themselves up, paid to register, in order to be able to win and show off.
Pride...comes before....?
this thread is for when you have to say something to get it out of the system, whether it is happy or sad.
my reason for stating the thread is that on occasion some threads do tend to get a little heated here, and maybe this thread will enable us to reflect on the important fact, we are real people and not just dots on a computer screen.. i would love to start the thread with a bang, but nothing of particular interest has happened, only i do hope the weather improves as the climate i live in has been sadly chilly for the time of year, (if you get the deeper meaning).
the rebel..
this thread is for when you have to say something to get it out of the system, whether it is happy or sad.
my reason for stating the thread is that on occasion some threads do tend to get a little heated here, and maybe this thread will enable us to reflect on the important fact, we are real people and not just dots on a computer screen.. i would love to start the thread with a bang, but nothing of particular interest has happened, only i do hope the weather improves as the climate i live in has been sadly chilly for the time of year, (if you get the deeper meaning).
the rebel..
If the past weekend is included in this thread: my wife and I took part in a charity/community event. That is something we never did before!
It was wonderful. To me it proves doing something to help others and enjoying their company is what makes the efforts worth while. No Jah blessing of holy spirit and brotherly love and unity needed. It was just as nice and fun as any JW building activity, but without the JW.
Hopefully my wife will notice that too :-D
the god of christian theism values faith.. "without faith it is impossible to please god, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists" - heb.11.
faith and evidence are inversely proportional - the more evidence there is that god exists the less faith you need in that proposition and vice-versa.. so how can a christian criticise any other faith-based belief?
for example they can protest that all the evidence is against the claims of scientology, but that just means that scientologists require more faith than christians.
@Skedaddle,
Your post reminds me of how the JW anointed know beyond doubt that they are anointed. They don't have any evidence for it. They certainly cannot prove it to anyone. But they know they are one with God...eh I mean anointed.
and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?
!
And even if this Phoney Fakey Award were actually the real Emmy awards: WHY would Jesus Christ ever want to pay to compete in order to show off how good you are?
Didn't he teach us anything about humility n stuff?
Everything the RF do is because of Jehovah, but the bORg gladly pays to be able to tout their own horn...
I guess fallout from this one is easy to contain:
"Some brother in video dept got carried away and signed up for the award without asking. He thought it was only a library card. Oh wait...eh..."